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Commander Max  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, March 8, 2016 9:53:20 PM(UTC)
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I have a striped Defender cab I don't need. Plus it has water damage, someone replaced the kicker panel with MDF. And it has termite damage on one side at the top of the cab.
Is it worth salvaging? I have another cab I got from Jawhn(in great shape, thanks Jawhn), it's only missing one strip of plywood on the back of the cab. I was thinking of breaking the trashed cab down take the part I need and toss the rest. But I'm conflicted, the cab could be saved but it would be a lot of work.

What do you guys think.
I would give it away no problem, does anybody need another project?
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, March 9, 2016 7:35:19 AM(UTC)
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pictures of the damage?
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, March 9, 2016 8:01:39 AM(UTC)
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I just got finished with replacing the bottom 12 inches of a cabinet because of heavy water damage, and I agree....it's a lot of work.

It really depends on what you have left after fixing the broken/damaged sections. If it's a viable cab after the fix and someone is interested in spending the time...labor of love and all that...it's probably worth it.

This is a hot topic for me at the moment because my wife asked me last night - "how much time do you think you've put into fixing that cabinet?".....LOL :-)
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, March 9, 2016 1:59:12 PM(UTC)
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This is a hot topic for me at the moment because my wife asked me last night - "how much time do you think you've put into fixing that cabinet?".....LOL :-)


The answer is "No enough" Smile
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, March 9, 2016 3:12:53 PM(UTC)
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Hahahah.....I like that. "I'll let you know when I get it finished!". (Then run the other direction)
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, March 9, 2016 3:52:51 PM(UTC)
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Here are some pics.


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#7 Posted : Wednesday, March 9, 2016 4:47:06 PM(UTC)
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Oh wow...that does look nasty. I don't think I would put any time into saving that one.
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#8 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:19:03 AM(UTC)
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Here are some pics.




Nothing a couple cans of Bondo couldn't fix.
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#9 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:29:04 AM(UTC)
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I agree, I was going to do that. But since I got another cab, why bother.
I will say the rest of the cab is salvageable. Even a back door that fits.
That's why I would hate to chuck it.

I can bring it out to the next repair party if anybody want's it.
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#10 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2016 8:22:07 AM(UTC)
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That's a pretty big, flat surface for all that bondo....you'd have to use a snow shovel for a spatula LOL ;-)

I would cut new wood and replace as much as needed rather than creating a new surface with bondo, but to each his own!
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#11 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2016 11:33:49 AM(UTC)
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That's a pretty big, flat surface for all that bondo....you'd have to use a snow shovel for a spatula LOL ;-)

I would cut new wood and replace as much as needed rather than creating a new surface with bondo, but to each his own!


Agreed. My suggestion was in jest Tongue
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#12 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:24:16 PM(UTC)
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I've bondoed much larger surfaces.
I'm not bothering with this one.

What do you guys think? Take what I need and junk it.
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#13 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:43:09 PM(UTC)
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LOL...Dangit Brien...ya got me! :-)

Max, if you do a surface that big how the heck to assure it's flat and even with no reference points? Very curious.

I've certainly patched large surfaces like that before but never tried to create a whole new one.

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#14 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2016 2:38:34 PM(UTC)
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You use reference points, and you don't use bondo from Walmart. There is far better stuff out there, it's not as costly. I don't remember the name of the place to get it.

You use the cab as reference, and no need to take it apart. As long as the opposite side and profile of the surface is good. Not the whole cab.

After that I can think of two methods off the top of my head.
Mount a dam to he profile of the cab, matching the original and desired surface. Then screed the bondo as applied, then primer sand and fill... to the desired surface.

Second method, simple but hard to describe. It would use a hand held router to match the surface height. There is a bit to it, but it's not hard.

These methods I would not use on the bottom of the cab.

When faced with that, I would find a cab in better shape. Or take the damaged cab apart, use the pieces as templates to make another cab.
I'm going to do this with a Berzerk cab I have. One side of the cab looks OK to put on a wall. But it had a lot of water damage. I found rusted screws all through the cab.
Besides the whole cab being really wonky.

The more I think about it, I'm leaning toward junking the cab.
Unless someone wants it.

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#15 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2016 3:30:20 PM(UTC)
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Yeah, that's why I asked the question. Based on your pics there didn't seem to be much in terms of height reference. It must be in better shape on the lower part.

Couple of good ideas. I think the implementation my be tricky though. I'll pick your brain the next time I see you.
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#16 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2016 8:58:27 PM(UTC)
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The height reference is the thickness of the plywood. That is fairly consistent the problem would be if the profile was gone.

Arcade cabs are not machining, eyeball is good enough.

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#17 Posted : Saturday, March 12, 2016 10:11:55 AM(UTC)
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Max, if you trash the cab, I know a guy looking for the control panel (just the panel, no controls). Let me know if it's available.
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#18 Posted : Wednesday, March 16, 2016 3:36:36 PM(UTC)
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Paul, I'll pass the stripped panel along next time I see you.

I trashed the cab, it was Jawhn's Las Vegas Defender.
It sure was the LV Defender, termites were having a party all over that cab.
I'm glad nobody took it, but I'm holding onto the parts for a little while.
Just in case anybody wants anything, let me know.

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#19 Posted : Wednesday, March 16, 2016 4:53:43 PM(UTC)
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Paul, I'll pass the stripped panel along next time I see you.

I trashed the cab, it was Jawhn's Las Vegas Defender.
It sure was the LV Defender, termites were having a party all over that cab.
I'm glad nobody took it, but I'm holding onto the parts for a little while.
Just in case anybody wants anything, let me know.



Hopefully there were no left over termites...
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#20 Posted : Wednesday, March 16, 2016 9:14:32 PM(UTC)
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Nope it was dry. They have been gone a while.

It had mold as well, that was looking nasty.

I also trashed my Berzerk cab. It was really out of wack. I swear it must have spent time underwater. I only found one finishing nail that wasn't rusted. One side looks good, so that's going to be wall art in my garage.
I'm going to copy the parts to make another cab. But do some tweaks to the design, since I'm using James's board.
I just need to get the monitor fixed.
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